Not trying to get hate....

[_xMaegann]

U said it, 10 chickens if u dont find armors are easy to lose and 10 chickens with good armors is op, so my opinion is to give 5 chickens but with some good armors isnt that a good opinion?!

Yeah, it’s pretty much more fair xD
Farmer kit players gotta rush quickly or else they’re dead, that’s a weakness for us. Most ppl who use farmer kit turn into rushers so that they can abuse the amount of food to get rid of their first opponent, whether it’d be the person who spawned next to them or someone who got to mid sooner.

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[_HamsomeHam_]

Yeah, it’s pretty much more fair xD
Farmer kit players gotta rush quickly or else they’re dead, that’s a weakness for us. Most ppl who use farmer kit turn into rushers so that they can abuse the amount of food to get rid of their first opponent, whether it’d be the person who spawned next to them or someone who got to mid sooner.

And tbh I'd prefer that they dont get really good armors like full chain/gold cuz the kit will be like buster but with eggs, so i mean it would be better if they dont get good armors right?

Maybe gold chest, helmet and leather boots, pants?

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[_xMaegann]

And tbh I'd prefer that they dont get really good armors like full chain, gold cuz the kit will be like buster but with eggs, so i mean it would be better if they dont get good armors right?

Maybe gold chest, helmet and leather boots, pants?

Honestly I don’t get really annoyed if I have bad armor or not xD
But yeah parts of armor would be nice

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[TheRealOne]

Honestly,I've never used the farmer kit,or anyone in my game using it

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[AllyMac_]

Ok, let's be honest.

You take a lot of kb when u get hit by 2/3 eggs.
You can use Farmer kit too, ally.It's just annoying in tsw.

You don't get any armor when u buy this kit

So it's kinda fair, ig.
I suggest only vertx fixing the kb and make eggs/rod not to be hiteable in tsw

Yeah, I have played SW for so long then I started playing TSW recently and if you are against a team with 2 or more farmers that are good at pvp good luck. I do see many already great pvp'ers using farmer. I do agree that fixing the knockback, giving some armor similar to pyro's armor and making it so they only get 5 cooked chicken would help allot. Is it just me or is the egg knockback stronger than it used to be? Maybe there are just more farmer kit users in TSW (usually 3-4 per game). Along with all these suggestions I truly believe eggs and fishing rod should not affect your own teammates in TSW.

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[P1anet1]

when u hit someone with ur fist it takes 50% less kb then when u hit one person with a egg

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[Mendinq]

Soooo..............I would like you to consider an argument I have about the farmer kit in SW/TSW. It is way
too op.
1. The knockback from the eggs is 4-5 blocks- if you are on a bridge or the edge of an island forget it- you are almost always going to fall to the void. If you are fighting in a large enough area you might have a chance if you're good at strafing but it almost acts as if the player has reach. You can't get close to them when they are throwing their eggs.
2. The amount of food you get with farmer is too op. 10 cooked chicken is far too much. It should be 5 cooked chicken in my opinion.
3. In TSW you are able to kill your own teammates with the eggs (this also applies to fishing rod in TSW- your own teammate can fish you and yeet you into the void)
I know a lot of people will say- so use farmer kit. I'm sure it will be all the players that use that kit. I hear you all but I know you all egg-ree it's too strong of a kit. I have used many kits- some say pyro is too op- it only comes with one cooked chicken and some meh gold armor. I have used archer but I prefer to pvp so not the kit for me. I am now using buster because the farmer kit is too op and kinda unfair. Buster used to be considered "too op" (you pvp'ers who have been here a few years remember) but now it's the only pvp option that has a chance in a "rushing" situation vs a farmer.

I am interested in hearing both sides of the argument from people. Farmer kit users do you think the egg knockback and 10 cooked chickens is fair? (I know it comes w/o armor but armor is easy to get)
For non farmers what would you do to change the farmer kit without nerfing it completely?

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Oh no, farmer kit eggsposed? xD
Okay- all memes and jokes aside, as you may or may not know i main the farmer kit and I'll tell you right off the bat from experience that the kit itself is easy to abuse and really overpowered if you use it right.
The knockback from le eggs remain uneggsplained to this day- it can pick up a player one block up into the air and if spammed at the right angle and timing, they will go flying up even higher and much further than you would eggspect. Here's the thing, if you spam more than 3 eggs at someone on a bridge and it hits them, they go flying and if the one getting hit was eggspecting this- then they can pearl clutch in that half a second you get in mid air before starting to plummet into the void and before hitting the void. Reflexes really help you out here too unless the egg user is eggsperienced ofcourse. Then again, eggs are really easy to dodge, doesn't have a long range and runs out quickly. They're pretty much useless in close combat. They're short in numbers and 4 stacks of eggs or 64 eggs might seem like a lot but as others have also mentioned, it runs out pretty darn fast since you have to throw several at a time to make sure they get hit considering how slow the eggs move, plus the short range. The knockback is the problem with eggs and I'd say it needs to be adjusted slightly.
I think that's all i had to say about the eggs and they're honestly the best part about the kit. I've had tons of fun with them even without abusing the knockback.
The 10 chicken equivalent to 30 hearts sitting there in your inventory is as ally said, far too op. An eggressive mineman, even without armour can kill you even if you are decently stacked. You can tank a lot of hits and heal up over and over again like nothing happened- this can be scary and disheartening and honestly it's hella annoying even though i do that all the time. It's also worth mentioning how fisherman kit gets 5 of each type of cooked fish, eventhough it's half a heart less in healing.
The next topic is something i haven't had to deal with all that much since i stick to solo skywars. Team griefing with eggs and rods need to be disabled somehow in my opinion.

The tricky part is adjusting the knockback from eggs and then deciding on the number of cooked chickens that would be considered fair.
Btw there are creative ways to counter the kit as it is now.
But then again, it's better to balance the kit along with the fisherman kit in my opinion.

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[AllyMac_]

Oh no, farmer kit eggsposed? xD
Okay- all memes and jokes aside, as you may or may not know i main the farmer kit and I'll tell you right off the bat from experience that the kit itself is easy to abuse and really overpowered if you use it right.
The knockback from le eggs remain uneggsplained to this day- it can pick up a player one block up into the air and if spammed at the right angle and timing, they will go flying up even higher and much further than you would eggspect. Here's the thing, if you spam more than 3 eggs at someone on a bridge and it hits them, they go flying and if the one getting hit was eggspecting this- then they can pearl clutch in that half a second you get in mid air before starting to plummet into the void and before hitting the void. Reflexes really help you out here too unless the egg user is eggsperienced ofcourse. Then again, eggs are really easy to dodge, doesn't have a long range and runs out quickly. They're pretty much useless in close combat. They're short in numbers and 4 stacks of eggs or 64 eggs might seem like a lot but as others have also mentioned, it runs out pretty darn fast since you have to throw several at a time to make sure they get hit considering how slow the eggs move, plus the short range. The knockback is the problem with eggs and I'd say it needs to be adjusted slightly.
I think that's all i had to say about the eggs and they're honestly the best part about the kit. I've had tons of fun with them even without abusing the knockback.
The 10 chicken equivalent to 30 hearts sitting there in your inventory is as ally said, far too op. An eggressive mineman, even without armour can kill you even if you are decently stacked. You can tank a lot of hits and heal up over and over again like nothing happened- this can be scary and disheartening and honestly it's hella annoying even though i do that all the time. It's also worth mentioning how fisherman kit gets 5 of each type of cooked fish, eventhough it's half a heart less in healing.
The next topic is something i haven't had to deal with all that much since i stick to solo skywars. Team griefing with eggs and rods need to be disabled somehow in my opinion.

The tricky part is adjusting the knockback from eggs and then deciding on the number of cooked chickens that would be considered fair.
Btw there are creative ways to counter the kit as it is now.
But then again, it's better to balance the kit along with the fisherman kit in my opinion.

Egg-reed and well said my farmer friend! Egg-ceptional essay

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[Bliss2k]

I don’t mind the Farmers Kit at all. I believe the egg knockback is an replacement of the armour.

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[dist]

For the ppl who use farmer kit fk u for egging me into the void

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[SirBenjys]

Yep, Farmer kit is extremely overpowered-- at least for PC. I have won many games with terrible loot using just a few eggs. I think that it might be okay for PE users because it takes skill to aim and use the eggs and honestly sometimes PE users need food more then PC users.

I think maybe nerfing it for PC players might be a good idea, cutting the food and eggs in half for me would make me be more careful with how much of both I use.

Like Strel said though, we do have at least one weakness, we sometimes end up with pretty bad armor, and I think that's usually why I get killed.

But like, it's overpowered:
https://streamable.com/a4f3y
https://streamable.com/qfwdm

All this to say: it's fair to nerf it for PC and I certainly won't complain if it is.

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[TheCooki3Cat]

Yep, Farmer kit is extremely overpowered-- at least for PC. I have won many games with terrible loot using just a few eggs. I think that it might be okay for PE users because it takes skill to aim and use the eggs and honestly sometimes PE users need food more then PC users.

I think maybe nerfing it for PC players might be a good idea, cutting the food and eggs in half for me would make me be more careful with how much of both I use.

Like Strel said though, we do have at least one weakness, we sometimes end up with pretty bad armor, and I think that's usually why I get killed.

But like, it's overpowered:
https://streamable.com/a4f3y
https://streamable.com/qfwdm

All this to say: it's fair to nerf it and I certainly won't complain if it is.

I agree because I'm a PE user and it's super hard for me. And honestly I don't even think about the food like that so it will not effect me at all if vertx cut it in half. Including the eggs. It would help me to be more resourceful with my eggs and not use them all. And I think you can still find eggs in the chests so you can always stock up on them.

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[MarvelB0i]

I don't think It's as OP as all of u are saying it is, but I do agree on a nerf. Egg knockback is absurd, and should be nerfed into oblivion. (At least two consecutive egg hits to knock a user into void, should be how it works) I think the chicken should be a tad lower on how much is given. The food should be lowered, because if u compare it to other kits, (I am going to compare it to my main kit fisherman) It has way more food, and fisherman already has 12 cooked fish, and is better at void yeeting due to the projectiles of farmer being spammable.
I do believe 5 cooked chicken is a bit too much of a food nerf tho, and the kit should have like 7.

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[MarvelB0i]

I agree because I'm a PE user and it's super hard for me. And honestly I don't even think about the food like that so it will not effect me at all if vertx cut it in half. Including the eggs. It would help me to be more resourceful with my eggs and not use them all. And I think you can still find eggs in the chests so you can always stock up on them.

U can't get eggs in chests. The only way to get a throwable projectile, is to harvest snowballs.

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[KSProductions]

Much better idea.

Remove food healing

Just make gapples for healing

https://brokenlens.xyz/forums/threads/food.108712/

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[xAlsieee]

Eep- ignore the fact I just saw this ;u;

I DO use the farmer kit in TSW and even when I’m using it, I find it unfair to others. I’ve seen some people abuse their teammates with the eggs/fishing rod, it’s unfair to the people’s teammates and it’s kind of sad. I also believe 10 cooked chicken is a LOT. Yes, the people who use it know that it helps a lot as well, but it’s too unfair and op to others who don’t have it. It gives so much health. I know there’s no armor which may gives other sides in how it’s fair, but you even with a few pieces of armor (ex. Helmet and boots, boots and pants) it’s still too op in my opinion. I agree, farmer kits should be given 5 chicken instead of 10 because you can also find food pretty easily. 10 is too op, unfair, and powerful with armor. The eggs also give an advantage when it comes to hitting people off. You come with 64 eggs (you can loose them quickly but, still a lot) that hits people (like Ally said) about 4-5 farther. The knock back is crazy. You can barely get to people when they use it. This is just my opinion, not sure how others feel but to sum it up the farmer kit is op and CAN be unfair.

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