the truth about what players really want

[DarkTdmPlays]

Say it louder for the people in the back!! The server is so dead, it's ridiculous, I want to play dead minigames such as Draw and guess, TNT Tag, Survival Games, etc. But most of the time there is not enough people. So like I'm not even enjoying the server fully because minigames I want to play is dead. Plus, I can imagine how disappointing new players must be when they want to join a unique minigame and it's dead...

I feel like staff team should be looking at ways to make the server more popular again. And no I'm not talking about "new game and new maps!" . I'm talking about actually boosting the popularity. Put some incentives in dead minigames so people can play them again. Maybe look into being a featured server? That's a surefire way to bring new players.

Do you like strawberries shive?

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[AllyMac_]

It's not the same like the paths and everything is different. Everything is kind of different.

Plus, I feel like y'all incorporated the old lobby in Krazy Karts specifically because the plan was to use nostalgia to get players on to the new game :/. Cuz y'all could have incorporated that "old" lobby and place it in a more popular game, like MM, but y'all didn't.

It was my idea to use the old lobby there because people were complaining so hard to bring the old lobby back- so I spent months redoing it, getting ready for the new game- I had no intention of "use nostalgia to get players on to the new game" I did it because I thought people would be happy to have it back- but it seems there is no way to please people- I even made a little house for Geo and Puggy- because they are two of the oldest og players in BL but all I see is Puggy: (quoted from above) "no i find the recreation really laggy and confusing. its not the same, just the portal and the paths, nothing else" I am sorry you aren't happy with the lobby- I/we hear what you are saying- we have heard what you all said about a throwback event - just know that these things take time- there is more to it than just *poof suddenly it's 2016 again on the server- Brokenlens will never be 8k players again (my opinion) unless it is a featured server- before featured servers people had to look for a good server- now as younger players join minecraft they see these "featured servers" right there and don't have to look to find a server, they are just there- I have always liked that about Brokenlens- that it's not a featured server- that the community is small and close-knit- even when there were 8k players there was a very strong sense of community- back when we all got to witness Lam and Paty fighting in our chat or Geo greeting her 60+ friends that were on every day. Of course Brokenlens has changed- things change- it's life- I'm not saying that we aren't going to do some kind of throwback event but I will say- I guarantee you people (who want BL back to old BL) won't be happy when it goes back to the new Brokenlens again
I would like some of these older players to realise that the new younger players probably have the same feelings about the new lobbies that you have about the old lobbies- if we took them away and put back the old ones we would have a whole new pile of players complaining about the new lobbies being gone- Woona and Diavent made the decision to change the lobbies to make Brokenlens unique- I have an idea that I will talk to Vertx about but I'm not promising anything- for now to the players complaining realise we do hear you- we have been hearing you- we just can't make everyone happy all the time- it's impossible

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[Kage_Kaster]

It was my idea to use the old lobby there because people were complaining so hard to bring the old lobby back- so I spent months redoing it, getting ready for the new game- I had no intention of "use nostalgia to get players on to the new game" I did it because I thought people would be happy to have it back- but it seems there is no way to please people- I even made a little house for Geo and Puggy- because they are two of the oldest og players in BL but all I see is Puggy: (quoted from above) "no i find the recreation really laggy and confusing. its not the same, just the portal and the paths, nothing else" I am sorry you aren't happy with the lobby- I/we hear what you are saying- we have heard what you all said about a throwback event - just know that these things take time- there is more to it than just *poof suddenly it's 2016 again on the server- Brokenlens will never be 8k players again (my opinion) unless it is a featured server- before featured servers people had to look for a good server- now as younger players join minecraft they see these "featured servers" right there and don't have to look to find a server, they are just there- I have always liked that about Brokenlens- that it's not a featured server- that the community is small and close-knit- even when there were 8k players there was a very strong sense of community- back when we all got to witness Lam and Paty fighting in our chat or Geo greeting her 60+ friends that were on every day. Of course Brokenlens has changed- things change- it's life- I'm not saying that we aren't going to do some kind of throwback event but I will say- I guarantee you people (who want BL back to old BL) won't be happy when it goes back to the new Brokenlens again
I would like some of these older players to realise that the new younger players probably have the same feelings about the new lobbies that you have about the old lobbies- if we took them away and put back the old ones we would have a whole new pile of players complaining about the new lobbies being gone- Woona and Diavent made the decision to change the lobbies to make Brokenlens unique- I have an idea that I will talk to Vertx about but I'm not promising anything- for now to the players complaining realise we do hear you- we have been hearing you- we just can't make everyone happy all the time- it's impossible

If player's want the old lobby so much, why not upload the og map as a download, so people don't have to ask to bring it back, and can have full access to it, without lag?

I know it's going to not have the plugins or anything, but it will give them what they want in a sense, and can have a chance to explore it, because I've actually missed out on a few things on the old map, as a friend pointed it out to me on the kk remake, one of the breakable cobbles.

People who really want the old map, can just look at it on their own time.

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[AllyMac_]

Say it louder for the people in the back!! The server is so dead, it's ridiculous, I want to play dead minigames such as Draw and guess, TNT Tag, Survival Games, etc. But most of the time there is not enough people. So like I'm not even enjoying the server fully because minigames I want to play is dead. Plus, I can imagine how disappointing new players must be when they want to join a unique minigame and it's dead...

I feel like staff team should be looking at ways to make the server more popular again. And no I'm not talking about "new game and new maps!" . I'm talking about actually boosting the popularity. Put some incentives in dead minigames so people can play them again. Maybe look into being a featured server? That's a surefire way to bring new players.

I agree and Vertx is looking into ways to advertise the server better (I don't know about the featured server aspect) It is sad that there aren't enough players to start some games- I think incentives work only for the short time they are in place and then those games are dead again (unfortunately) but I have enjoyed seeing how excited players are to play them (even if it's just for the exp boost) Games like Draw n' Guess- maybe if there was a rotating list of words it could make it more interesting - as it is now I and many other players have the list memorized making it impossible for new players to enjoy the game

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[DarkTdmPlays]

Maybe if you guys listened to my advice on reports our server would have the extra attention it needs.


In all seriousness. Fair points (mostly) everyone

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[Shive]

It was my idea to use the old lobby there because people were complaining so hard to bring the old lobby back- so I spent months redoing it, getting ready for the new game- I had no intention of "use nostalgia to get players on to the new game" I did it because I thought people would be happy to have it back- but it seems there is no way to please people

ok Ally, I am sorry for assuming that y'all incorporated the old lobby in the new game to attract more players, it felt that way to me and I didn't mean to accuse y'all of doing that.

I really appreciate the new maps y'all be doing, like it's amazing, you guys are easily the best builders I've seen on a server, but my problem is with the popularity with BrokenLens. I'm not asking for brlns to be exactly like the old days... those days are over, I'm asking for staff to find new ways of boosting popularity to make the server more playable again.
Like I said before "New maps and new game" does not equal popularity. Just look at KK...

I remember that vertx added incentives such as double and triple the exp and coins on dead minigames... is that still in place? Cuz that actually worked lol. Maybe we need more incentives similar to that. And I've been thinking, maybe vertx should look into being a featured server? Yeah it is going to come with changes but it could be worth looking into.

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[AllyMac_]

If player's want the old lobby so much, why not upload the og map as a download, so people don't have to ask to bring it back, and can have full access to it, without lag?

I know it's going to not have the plugins or anything, but it will give them what they want in a sense, and can have a chance to explore it, because I've actually missed out on a few things on the old map, as a friend pointed it out to me on the kk remake, one of the breakable cobbles.

People who really want the old map, can just look at it on their own time.

I know what you are saying- even in the new KK waiting lobby there was no way to recreate a glitch that made it so you could "float" above the quartz blocks by the pillars at the spawn area making it so you can easily jump up on the pillars (which was my favorite place to stand and wait) I am going to add barriers there or something to make it easier to jump up there but it's just not the same as the og waiting lobby- I like your idea but without it leading to a game I'm not sure if it will garner much attention- something to be discussed for sure though

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[AllyMac_]

ok Ally, I am sorry for assuming that y'all incorporated the old lobby in the new game to attract more players, it felt that way to me and I didn't mean to accuse y'all of doing that.

I really appreciate the new maps y'all be doing, like it's amazing, you guys are easily the best builders I've seen on a server, but my problem is with the popularity with BrokenLens. I'm not asking for brlns to be exactly like the old days... those days are over, I'm asking for staff to find new ways of boosting popularity to make the server more playable again.
Like I said before "New maps and new game" does not equal popularity. Just look at KK...

I remember that vertx added incentives such as double and triple the exp and coins on dead minigames... is that still in place? Cuz that actually worked lol. Maybe we need more incentives similar to that. And I've been thinking, maybe vertx should look into being a featured server? Yeah it is going to come with changes but it could be worth looking into.

He does those from time to time- that was what I was talking about in my smaller comment above- it's fun to see everyone enjoying the exp boost but as soon as Vertx shuts them off the games are dead again

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[Kage_Kaster]

I know what you are saying- even in the new KK waiting lobby there was no way to recreate a glitch that made it so you could "float" above the quartz blocks by the pillars at the spawn area making it so you can easily jump up on the pillars (which was my favorite place to stand and wait) I am going to add barriers there or something to make it easier to jump up there but it's just not the same as the og waiting lobby- I like your idea but without it leading to a game I'm not sure if it will garner much attention- something to be discussed for sure though

I forgot that kk didn't have those, they were almost like invisible half-slabs I think, but adding barriers in replacement would work well.

But maybe both og maps then? lobby map and the ingame lobby map? (but still, no game ofc, which will kind of suck.)

Just trying to think of way around it I guess, so people would then have both the original maps, can't make a fuss about it if you have them.

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[AllyMac_]

I forgot that kk didn't have those, they were almost like invisible half-slabs I think, but adding barriers in replacement would work well.

But maybe both og maps then? lobby map and the ingame lobby map? (but still, no game ofc, which will kind of suck.)

Just trying to think of way around it I guess, so people would then have both the original maps, can't make a fuss about it if you have them.

I have an idea that your idea just triggered so thanks for the suggestion

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[Kage_Kaster]

I have an idea that your idea just triggered so thanks for the suggestion

yw, just trying to figure a way so everyone can be happy with the maps, and good luck with the idea

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[AllyMac_]

yw, just trying to figure a way so everyone can be happy with the maps, and good luck with the idea

Thanks

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[Kage_Kaster]

Thanks

I better not find you posting the screenshots now lol

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[KhrizKGM]

Imo the exp boosters are good, BrokenLens dead cus of the mcpe update when mojang added featured servers, newbies prob just too lazy to type the ip and just join some featured servers instead. If BL was featured I believe it will beat some of them but the nonlogin xbox players wouldn't be able to join (I think some people made threads about this too in the past)

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[AllyMac_]

I better not find you posting the screenshots now lol

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I already posted them in the spongebob thread

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[AllyMac_]

Imo the exp boosters are good, BrokenLens dead cus of the mcpe update when mojang added featured servers, newbies prob just too lazy to type the ip and just join some featured servers instead. If BL was featured I believe it will beat some of them but the nonlogin xbox players wouldn't be able to join (I think some people made threads about this too in the past)

Exactly- it would be the end of the non xbox players

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[Kage_Kaster]

I already posted them in the spongebob thread

It's already too late

Imo the exp boosters are good, BrokenLens dead cus of the mcpe update when mojang added featured servers, newbies prob just too lazy to type the ip and just join some featured servers instead. If BL was featured I believe it will beat some of them but the nonlogin xbox players wouldn't be able to join (I think some people made threads about this too in the past)

The non-Xbox login requirement is a reason why there is a lot of players on the server, a few friends on the server don't even have access to use xbox accounts in their country either, so having a non-xbox required server helps get more players.

And soon we'll probably need a game booster on one of the dead games

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[Blazinqq]

Its just a waste of time to create a second version of the mini game just for the purpose of teaming with other players I think it'd be unfair to everyone else if an entire group of people were teaming against the rest of the players.

Nobody would be preventing you from doing the same, so no it would not be unfair.

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[JunoMakuch]

It's already too late




The non-Xbox login requirement is a reason why there is a lot of players on the server, a few friends on the server don't even have access to use xbox accounts in their country either, so having a non-xbox required server helps get more players.

And soon we'll probably need a game booster on one of the dead games

Mini game boosters do not bring new players into the server they just bring players from different mini games to that specific game. Once the event is over the players will go back to the games they usually play on. BrokenLens events could be great for bringing the community together and making new friends but in no way will it attract more players.

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[Blazinqq]

Imo the exp boosters are good, BrokenLens dead cus of the mcpe update when mojang added featured servers, newbies prob just too lazy to type the ip and just join some featured servers instead. If BL was featured I believe it will beat some of them but the nonlogin xbox players wouldn't be able to join (I think some people made threads about this too in the past)

That update came out in 2017 and at that time there was still 8k players on the server, even in 2018 there was still way more than it is now so while that is a factor. It definitely didn't affect the majority.

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