The Joker

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So I was playing Mafia and One Night Werewolf yesterday with some friends, and I realised that MM on the server can use another role to help the murderer out.

This role is like the Minion from ONW, or the joker from Mafia (I think my friends changed the joker up to make the game more interesting). I'll just call this role the 'joker' then.

At the start of every MM game, the murderer, sheriff and joker would be chosen and would be given their item. The Murderer and Joker would each be given the sword, except the Joker can't kill people with it. He/She can't hit anyone with their sword - it's just a decoy to fool people to make the murderer's job easier. However, the murderer can kill the Joker accidentally.

As the Joker, a win would be counted if the murderer wins the match, a loss would be the opposite of that. If the Joker is killed by the murderer or sheriff, they'd join another game of MM. If the murderer won and the Joker was dead and in another game, the Joker would receive a notification saying that they won as the Joker, and would receive EXP (if that's even possible). If the Joker is killed, the game doesn't end; it only ends when the murderer is killed or when the murderer and the still alive Joker are the last players in the match.

Idk if this would make an impact on this problem, but if this role was added to the game, it gives the murderer a chance to team with someone (the Joker) because they're on the same team. If two teamers both got those roles, then they can team without getting banned. I don't think it'll be bannable if the Joker teams with the sheriff.

I've included a summary of the role if these paragraphs are too obnoxious to read:
- The Joker is on the Murderer's team
- They have a decoy sword that they can take out to fool people
- However, they can't kill people with their decoy sword
- They can be killed by the murderer and sheriff
- If the murderer wins and the Joker had died and is now in a different game, the Joker from that round receive notifications with EXP (if possible) saying that they won the game as the Joker
- I haven't mentioned this above, but they should also receive EXP for participating in the game - I'm not sure how much tho
- Teaming on the murderer's team would give people the chance to team without being banned
- Might attract more players to the game

This probably won't be added into the game, but it'd make MM more interesting.
I'm open to any criticism/opinions.
 
So I was playing Mafia and One Night Werewolf yesterday with some friends, and I realised that MM on the server can use another role to help the murderer out.

This role is like the Minion from ONW, or the joker from Mafia (I think my friends changed the joker up to make the game more interesting). I'll just call this role the 'joker' then.

At the start of every MM game, the murderer, sheriff and joker would be chosen and would be given their item. The Murderer and Joker would each be given the sword, except the Joker can't kill people with it. He/She can't hit anyone with their sword - it's just a decoy to fool people to make the murderer's job easier. However, the murderer can kill the Joker accidentally.

As the Joker, a win would be counted if the murderer wins the match, a loss would be the opposite of that. If the Joker is killed by the murderer or sheriff, they'd join another game of MM. If the murderer won and the Joker was dead and in another game, the Joker would receive a notification saying that they won as the Joker, and would receive EXP (if that's even possible). If the Joker is killed, the game doesn't end; it only ends when the murderer is killed or when the murderer and the still alive Joker are the last players in the match.

Idk if this would make an impact on this problem, but if this role was added to the game, it gives the murderer a chance to team with someone (the Joker) because they're on the same team. If two teamers both got those roles, then they can team without getting banned. I don't think it'll be bannable if the Joker teams with the sheriff.

I've included a summary of the role if these paragraphs are too obnoxious to read:
- The Joker is on the Murderer's team
- They have a decoy sword that they can take out to fool people
- However, they can't kill people with their decoy sword
- They can be killed by the murderer and sheriff
- If the murderer wins and the Joker had died and is now in a different game, the Joker from that round receive notifications with EXP (if possible) saying that they won the game as the Joker
- I haven't mentioned this above, but they should also receive EXP for participating in the game - I'm not sure how much tho
- Teaming on the murderer's team would give people the chance to team without being banned
- Might attract more players to the game

This probably won't be added into the game, but it'd make MM more interesting.
I'm open to any criticism/opinions.
OMG <333 I actually love this idea XD

But, I think that if they realize that the joker can't hit anyone they will most likely call him out... (Not including newer players, referring to more experienced players) Maybe a good idea would be to allow him to "hit" people but not "kill" them...just to make it harder. XD

The reason I'm saying this is because when I'm sheriff (and I am not holding my weapon) I like to smack other players (yes I'm guilty of this...especially if there are stairs, I will knock you down) and they will run away and assume I'm murd...
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OMG <333 I actually love this idea XD

But, I think that if they realize that the joker can't hit anyone they will most likely call him out... (Not including newer players, referring to more experienced players) Maybe a good idea would be to allow him to "hit" people but not "kill" them...just to make it harder. XD

The reason I'm saying this is because when I'm sheriff (and I am not holding my weapon) I like to smack other players (yes I'm guilty of this...especially if there are stairs, I will knock you down) and they will run away and assume I'm murd...
But honestly this is just an idea! I really like your suggestion though!! It would make the game very interesting...One thing I did notice is that MM (unlike irl Mafia) doesn't have a doctor... which is a little saddening...or a voting system....that would be so fun!! to make an actual Mafia game in server!! So like everyone falls asleep, murd kills, sheriff accuses, etc.

But overall I really like the MM game server.
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I don't want MM updates, due to the game getting even MORE players. The game is freaking overated, and is the most popular on the server. It gets boring after a few games, and isn't good after that.
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OMG <333 I actually love this idea XD

But, I think that if they realize that the joker can't hit anyone they will most likely call him out... (Not including newer players, referring to more experienced players) Maybe a good idea would be to allow him to "hit" people but not "kill" them...just to make it harder. XD

The reason I'm saying this is because when I'm sheriff (and I am not holding my weapon) I like to smack other players (yes I'm guilty of this...especially if there are stairs, I will knock you down) and they will run away and assume I'm murd...
I was originally thinking that the Joker can hit people, but if they hit players too many times then they can die, like how the sheriff and murderer can beat players to death. Then it just removes the Joker's purpose of being a decoy in some way? idk what im talking about lol
wait i thought about something just then xd
either
- the Joker can hit players, and the players then lose three hearts but regains them again, or
- the Joker can hit players only once (so if there's 21 innocents, he can hit those 21 innocents each but only once)

maybe these can be applied to the Joker's role, maybe xd
I don't want MM updates, due to the game getting even MORE players. The game is freaking overated, and is the most popular on the server. It gets boring after a few games, and isn't good after that.
then suggest ideas for other games .p.
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I don't want MM updates, due to the game getting even MORE players. The game is freaking overated, and is the most popular on the server. It gets boring after a few games, and isn't good after that.
that is ver true. What about the other dead games? what about an exciting rund of mob wars? what about a fast-paced match of OITC? or what about collecting tags in tag hunters?
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Just cuz a game isn’t dead doesn’t mean they shouldn’t try to improve it. Mm is kinda boring so they just wanna make it more fun. Adding new guns or perks won’t make the game quake won’t make it have have 100+ players daily (maybe for like a week) but that’s it
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Just cuz a game isn’t dead doesn’t mean they shouldn’t try to improve it. Mm is kinda boring so they just wanna make it more fun. Adding new guns or perks won’t make the game quake won’t make it have have 100+ players daily (maybe for like a week) but that’s it
Yeah, but you don't want what is popular to become too popular either. I've seen a server with only like 1 minigame that players play one, and the rest are literally all dead. Updating what is already the most popular game, brings more players to it, which results in other games dying. And I definitely don't want MM to become more popular either, and killing more actually good games. It's already very overrated.
And just because a game is popular, they shouldn't try to improve it.
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Yeah, but you don't want what is popular to become too popular either. I've seen a server with only like 1 minigame that players play one, and the rest are literally all dead. Updating what is already the most popular game, brings more players to it, which results in other games dying. And I definitely don't want MM to become more popular either, and killing more actually good games. It's already very overrated.
And just because a game is popular, they shouldn't try to improve it.
Instead of shunning every idea that may improve MM and complaining that MM is overrated on every thread that suggests something for the game, why don't you suggest an idea for the dead games? That way you can be the one who makes a change to games like Quake on the server.
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Instead of shunning every idea that may improve MM and complaining that MM is overrated on every thread that suggests something for the game, why don't you suggest an idea for the dead games? That way you can be the one who makes a change to games like Quake on the server.
I barely even shun MM. I've only said it's overrated in one other thread. I'm just saying that the point of focus for updates shouldn't be on MM. It's just my opinion. I suggest ideas for lots of other mini games lol.
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I barely even shun MM. I've only said it's overrated in one other thread. I'm just saying that the point of focus for updates shouldn't be on MM. It's just my opinion. I suggest ideas for lots of other mini games lol.
I never said that MM should be the focus of new updates? Plus there's only a few games that are dead. SW, TBB and MW are pretty popular as well, and sometimes there's over a handful of players on BP, RUN and BOW, depends on the timezone ig. The point of having new games or having games updated is to draw new players to them from other servers, not necessarily players that focus on other games in BL. Hopefully with the new game, BL can attract more players to the server.
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I never said that MM should be the focus of new updates? Plus there's only a few games that are dead. SW, TBB and MW are pretty popular as well, and sometimes there's over a handful of players on BP, RUN and BOW, depends on the timezone ig. The point of having new games or having games updated is to draw new players to them from other servers, not necessarily players that focus on other games in BL. Hopefully with the new game, BL can attract more players to the server.
That is a valid point. Although new games don't draw in many new players. Not many people hear about broken lens these days. Simply, there's no one talking about it on the internet nowadays. The largest youtube who does BrokenLens content only has like 1-2 thousand subs, which are all BrokenLens players. The internet, is what is promoting the server. New games usually are played by people who already play on the server.
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Mm does need improving, just because it’s popular doesn’t mean it can’t improve. Everyone treats MM like garbage. If you want dead games to be alive try make your own ideas to improve them (they are dead for a Reason). Fire loves murder mystery so they wanted to improve their favourite game
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I think that games that are dead is usually because most people aren’t interested in them
or there’s flaws in them that people dislike about it.

QuakeCraft is perfect example because it’s mostly a game for win10 since they have a easier time to aim. If it could be improved for pe it could get popularity since (I’m guessing) most people are pe but like I said it really depends on the majority of the people’s interests that play on the server.

Instead of arguing or complaining why games are overrated or underrated it would be best to suggest improvements for other dead games. Like how Unworthy stated and a few others. And who knows maybe those suggestions will make it and will maybe have an positive effect against the dead games.
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