Kit buff/nerf list (At least what I think)

[MarvelB0i]

This is a list of what kits I think should be buffed or nerfed. I have gotten a lot of attention on the nerf farmer kit thread so i'll continue suggesting kit changes.
Severe buffs:
Frozone kit (water power is useless)
Edit: I did just get an idea for a new power on frozone kit that's actually useful. I feel like frozone was designed with a hit and run playstyle, so this idea is based off of that. The idea is called freeze trail. Behind the user of the kit there would be a particle trail. If an enemy player touches the trail, their movement speed would slightly decrease by about 10-20%, as well as their attack power would slightly decrease by around 10-20 percent for about 2 sec after being touched by the particles.
Warrior kit https://brokenlens.xyz/forums/threads/warrior-kit-buff.110579/(suggested buffs)
Knight kit (needs more food, or a better weapon)
Builder kit: Blocks are common so this kit is a bit bad. I did suggest a kit similar to builder that could replace it in this thread.
https://brokenlens.xyz/forums/threads/d0nald-trump-k1t-fortifier-kit.104043/

Slight Nerfs or no changes:
Buster: I see this kit everywhere!!! Maybe a very SMALL nerf would make other melee kits more common.
-Fisherman kit: (It got smoll nerf today) Ok so like 2 more less fish would be fine.
Archer kit: It isn't OP, just no changes, or if a lot of people want nerf than slight nerf to arrow amount to stop bowspam.

Revamp:
-Pyro kit: This kit feels very OP with emerald rank but sucks with no rank. Also the fire immunity ruined MB. That should be removed, and the gear should be overall buffed. Fire power should be buffed too.
-Trapper kit: I see so many campers in SW using this kit. A removal or revamp would be good to stop campers

 

[dullness]

makes sense

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[JCMAruka]

Wtf nerf Fisherman kit too
If you want balance and equality - then make it for everyone :/
Only 5 cooked salmon for fisherman lol
like 5 chicken in farmer kit

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[JCMAruka]

what changes happened in fisherman kit? Lmfao.

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[cursedd]

as someone who uses pyro, i do personally like the fire immunity. yes, pyros are pretty hard to kill if they’re skilled at pvp, but it’s also really useful. say some noob just has nothing, but he has flint and steel. anyone w/o pyro could be burnt to death. but one with ranks are immune to it. yea it’s kinda sucky w/o a rank, but it still helps. idk if there’s a way to level up in your kit w/o a rank, but if there isn’t maybe you could pay [x] amount of coins to upgrade

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[MarvelB0i]

Wtf nerf Fisherman kit too
If you want balance and equality - then make it for everyone :/
Only 5 cooked salmon for fisherman lol
like 5 chicken in farmer kit

U realise that 1 fish heal less than 1 chicken lol. I did some Math, before responding on how much each kit heals in a melee combat scenario, and yes, fisherman heals more, but only slightly more. This is balanced by the fact that fisherman has the worse ranged attack. Eggs are way better than a rod. I would be fine with 2 more fish removed, but any more would make the kit obsolete.
Also nerfing too much is bad. A lot of people don't like it when their way to play gets nerfed. Personally I'd buff other lower tier kits to make them equal to the top tier ones.

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[MarvelB0i]

what changes happened in fisherman kit? Lmfao.

Fisherman got a very SLIGHT nerf. Now theres 5 of each fish type instead of 6. I would be fine with 4 of each type but thats it. Any more than that would make the kit be garbage.

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[JCMAruka]

U realise that 1 fish heal less than 1 chicken lol. I did some Math, before responding on how much each kit heals in a melee combat scenario, and yes, fisherman heals more, but only slightly more. This is balanced by the fact that fisherman has the worse ranged attack. Eggs are way better than a rod. I would be fine with 2 more fish removed, but any more would make the kit obsolete.
Also nerfing too much is bad. A lot of people don't like it when their way to play gets nerfed. Personally I'd buff other lower tier kits to make them equal to the top tier ones.

I agree ab buff and see? you admit my words. that’s hella unfair, and that’s not “slightly” at all. 5 cooked salmon = 15 hearts + 5 cooked cod = 12,5 hearts.
That IS unfair towards farmer kit.
Nerf fisherman kit to having only 5 cooked salmon.

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[JCMAruka]

Fisherman got a very SLIGHT nerf. Now theres 5 of each fish type instead of 6. I would be fine with 4 of each type but thats it. Any more than that would make the kit be garbage.

“SLIGHT” nerf. Why did they remove only 2 fishes while they remove 5 chicken in farmer kit? You don’t even know what equality means

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[MarvelB0i]

I agree ab buff and see? you admit my words. that’s hella unfair, and that’s not “slightly” at all. 5 cooked salmon = 15 hearts + 5 cooked cod = 12,5 hearts.
That IS unfair towards farmer kit.
Nerf fisherman kit to having only 5 cooked salmon.

Cooked salmon heals less than cooked chicken.

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[JCMAruka]

Cooked salmon heals less than cooked chicken.

They both heal 3 hearts, wdym.

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[MarvelB0i]

They both heal 3 hearts, wdym.

Chicken heals 4 lol.
Also if ur so angry about farmer nerf and want a mass nerf of another kit just because, then just play that kit. Farmer has better projectiles as well than fisherman so the healing amount of fisherman should be more than that of farmer. I don't want the thread just to be an argunment so let's resolve in private convo.

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[XSharp]

Plz make creeper better it's so underrated

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[XSharp]

Give creeper more tnt

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[MarvelB0i]

Plz make creeper better it's so underrated

I agree with the buff aspect. Personally I think it needs food or armor to make people play it.

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[_HamsomeHam_]

Bruh plz no changes, kits are pretty good rn, every kit has its playing style, like buster is for rushing and archer is to shoot ppl while making bridge and camp sometimes, well im not gonna name all kits but every kit has its player no kits needs to be nerfed or buffed or even removed, thx

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[AllyMac_]

Some of the kits noone uses could be buffed a bit but idk what the point is. The most used kits rn are Archer, Buster, Farmer, Fisherman, Pyro and TNT. I think they are all pretty close to each other in fairness. Right now the only one that is too op (imo) is Pyro if u have emerald. Don't get me wrong though- I used this kit for a long time (with Emerald). In farmer the eggs offset the amount of chicken, in Archer you only get 16 arrows no food (correct me if I'm wrong I haven't used archer in 2+ years), Fisherman you get the fish but the rod is meh and anyone can craft their own, Buster no good weapons but 3 steak and chainmail. To me leave them all alone unless you spruce up some of the underused ones a bit- I'd have to look at what they all have to give any suggestions on the buffing. Creeper kit doesn't need buffing b/c they tend to not need much food since if they are good with their kit they just explode people anyways. Edit- give the creeper kit one cooked chicken like Pyro xD

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[MarvelB0i]

Bruh plz no changes, kits are pretty good rn, every kit has its playing style, like buster is for rushing and archer is to shoot ppl while making bridge and camp sometimes, well im not gonna name all kits but every kit has its player no kits needs to be nerfed or buffed or even removed, thx

I think the lower tier kits need a buff. I am not a big nerf fan but did propose some In case someone blared the thread with nerf ideas. Frozone needs to be better (new power maybe?), warrior sucks when compared to buster, builder is kinda pointless, and knight isn't the best overall, even though It's cool. Also trapper needs a revamp or removal, the kit supports camping.

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[MarvelB0i]

Some of the kits noone uses could be buffed a bit but idk what the point is. The most used kits rn are Archer, Buster, Farmer, Fisherman, Pyro and TNT. I think they are all pretty close to each other in fairness. Right now the only one that is too op (imo) is Pyro if u have emerald. Don't get me wrong though- I used this kit for a long time (with Emerald). In farmer the eggs offset the amount of chicken, in Archer you only get 16 arrows no food (correct me if I'm wrong I haven't used archer in 2+ years), Fisherman you get the fish but the rod is meh and anyone can craft their own, Buster no good weapons but 3 steak and chainmail. To me leave them all alone unless you spruce up some of the underused ones a bit- I'd have to look at what they all have to give any suggestions on the buffing. Creeper kit doesn't need buffing b/c they tend to not need much food since if they are good with their kit they just explode people anyways. Edit- give the creeper kit one cooked chicken like Pyro xD

Emerald pyro is only OP in MB. I did suggest a revamp to that kit. Fire power sucks, unless you get a really good combo on an opponent to allow the fire effect to last and deal damage, and fire/lava immunity ruined MB although is useless in other games.

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[MarvelB0i]

makes sense

They both heal 3 hearts, wdym.

Give creeper more tnt

Bruh plz no changes, kits are pretty good rn, every kit has its playing style, like buster is for rushing and archer is to shoot ppl while making bridge and camp sometimes, well im not gonna name all kits but every kit has its player no kits needs to be nerfed or buffed or even removed, thx

Some of the kits noone uses could be buffed a bit but idk what the point is. The most used kits rn are Archer, Buster, Farmer, Fisherman, Pyro and TNT. I think they are all pretty close to each other in fairness. Right now the only one that is too op (imo) is Pyro if u have emerald. Don't get me wrong though- I used this kit for a long time (with Emerald). In farmer the eggs offset the amount of chicken, in Archer you only get 16 arrows no food (correct me if I'm wrong I haven't used archer in 2+ years), Fisherman you get the fish but the rod is meh and anyone can craft their own, Buster no good weapons but 3 steak and chainmail. To me leave them all alone unless you spruce up some of the underused ones a bit- I'd have to look at what they all have to give any suggestions on the buffing. Creeper kit doesn't need buffing b/c they tend to not need much food since if they are good with their kit they just explode people anyways. Edit- give the creeper kit one cooked chicken like Pyro xD

Hello everyone who has responded to this thread! I just edited the main post for a way to buff frozone kit by giving it a second power. I just want to see if people like this new power idea.

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