Icy’s Mafia Game - Day 8 / Finale

[DarkTdmPlays]

6th times the charm!

Hahahahahahahaha funny


Except- you're a traitor

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[Dz81]

Hahahahahahahaha funny


Except- you're a traitor

Yes

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[DarkTdmPlays]

Just imagine how many days ago this would've been finished if the game was actually being played fairly

Exactly dear Ham

I get it's a game but it doesn't excuse how morally wrong this is. The game was screwed over by the innos from the start. This stuff is illegal in real life and politics so why should it be allowed here?

It's still wrong...

The next time you encounters tons of hackers in your game, don't be mad they have the advantage against you, just remember it's just a game. See how that sounds??

Facts, a reason why I pretty much checked out these last two days

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[DarkTdmPlays]

Well that was the quite the read xD
What a story lol.

Excited for the next game. I will say that some loopholes need to fixed because while it's more or less pretty flipping funny for now it will just be annoying going in a new game. Other than that this was great as always Icy, nice work guys!

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[Dz81]

Well that was the quite the read xD
What a story lol.

Excited for the next game. I will say that some loopholes need to fixed because while it's more or less pretty flipping funny for now it will just be annoying going in a new game. Other than that this was great as always Icy, nice work guys!

Yeah although it was really fun & we all had a great laugh this time, I’m sure it’ll get old & annoying if it keeps happening over & over.

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[Dominicshortbow]

It's in the rules Icy gives to individual groups when they are chosen for specific roles in a conversation

If hacking wasn't a rule, does that mean hacking is fair?

Well I didn't know that the rules were given individually! I havent joined this before! And Shive I believe hacking and separate chats are sort of differnt!
They both are used to gain better advantages! But hacking is acually hacking by going on a site to download hacks and activating it while your in game(which I don't recommend at all!) While chatting in private not really like hacking, it's more like teamming. Some servers don't care for teammers while others do care. And if the one server thinks its cheating, they will add it to the rules and ask others to not cheat!

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[Dominicshortbow]

Well I didn't know that the rules were given individually! I havent joined this before! And Shive I believe hacking and separate chats are soft of differnt!
They both are used to gain better advantages! But hacking is acually hacking by going on a site to download hacks and activating it while your in game(which I don't recommend at all!) While chatting in private not really like hacking, it's more like teamming. Some servers don't care for teammers while others do care. And if the one server thinks its cheating, they will add it to the rules and ask others to not cheat!

I hope this makes sense, I struggled putting this together!

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[Shive]

Well I didn't know that the rules were given individually! And Shive I believe hacking and separate chats are soft of differnt!
They both are used to gain better advantages! But hacking is acually hacking by going on a site to download hacks and activating it while your in game(which I don't recommend at all!) While chatting in private not really like hacking, it's more like teamming. Some servers don't care for teammers while others do care. And if the one server thinks its cheating, they will add it to the rules and ask others to not cheat!

Mr. Dominic you are completely missing the point.

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[Dominicshortbow]

Mr. Dominic you are completely missing the point.

What am I missing?

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[Shive]

What am I missing?

So initially, you said that this behavior is okay because there were not any rules regarding this. Let's try this again. If there were not any rules about hacking (so its legal for me to hack), does that make it right? I'm assuming you would say no because hacking is cheating and the game would be considered rigged and unfair because the hacker has more power and advantage over the people playing fair, the innocents. The same can be said in this case. Here, the traitors coerced and twisted the game to their advantage through unfair, private conversations and forcing people to vote the way they want to. Because of this, the rest of the pure innos were essentially screwed right from the start, just like in a game with a hacker in it. The traitors are like the hacker, using their power and knowledge to bend the game to their advantage; right from the start we did not have a chance to vote out who we wanted to vote. Most of the damn innos were basically traitors, they were not playing their role as an inno.

It's not just "separate chats". These chats carried power and influence to rig the votes when it commanded "innos" to vote on the side of the traitor. I say you are missing the point because you are taking the analogy literally.

I see the traitors like a corrupt politician, willing to do anything to stay in power, trying to override the will of the people, skewing the votes in anyway to their advantage.

I fee like most of y'all missing the point because your perspective is confined to the game, "it's just a game". It runs deeper than that and mirrors corruption and unfairness in the real world. It conflicts morality. Is it moral that it screws over people even though its not a rule?

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[Dominicshortbow]

So initially, you said that this behavior is okay because there were not any rules regarding this. Let's try this again. If there were not any rules about hacking (so its legal for me to hack), does that make it right? I'm assuming you would say no because hacking is cheating and the game would be considered rigged and unfair because the hacker has more power and advantage over the people playing fair, the innocents. The same can be said in this case. Here, the traitors coerced and twisted the game to their advantage through unfair, private conversations and forcing people to vote the way they want to. Because of this, the rest of the pure innos were essentially screwed right from the start, just like in a game with a hacker in it. The traitors are like the hacker, using their power and knowledge to bend the game to their advantage; right from the start we did not have a chance to vote out who we wanted to vote. Most of the damn innos were basically traitors, they were not playing their role as an inno.

It's not just "separate chats". These chats carried power and influence to rig the votes when it commanded "innos" to vote on the side of the traitor. I say you are missing the point because you are taking the analogy literally.

I guess that's true. It did completely changed the game like you said.

Well hopefully this rule is completely shown on week 1 so all the new players can also see that private chat is not allowed!
And maybe if someone catch cheating using private chat, report it to Icy in a convo and she can kick them out of the game, and put dead on the side of their name and not allowed to vote!

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[Dominicshortbow]

Well I believe this will be changed next game, so we can probably end this discussion!

But anyways, This seemed so fun and I will defentally participate next game!

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[Dz81]

So initially, you said that this behavior is okay because there were not any rules regarding this. Let's try this again. If there were not any rules about hacking (so its legal for me to hack), does that make it right? I'm assuming you would say no because hacking is cheating and the game would be considered rigged and unfair because the hacker has more power and advantage over the people playing fair, the innocents. The same can be said in this case. Here, the traitors coerced and twisted the game to their advantage through unfair, private conversations and forcing people to vote the way they want to. Because of this, the rest of the pure innos were essentially screwed right from the start, just like in a game with a hacker in it. The traitors are like the hacker, using their power and knowledge to bend the game to their advantage; right from the start we did not have a chance to vote out who we wanted to vote. Most of the damn innos were basically traitors, they were not playing their role as an inno.

It's not just "separate chats". These chats carried power and influence to rig the votes when it commanded "innos" to vote on the side of the traitor. I say you are missing the point because you are taking the analogy literally.

I see the traitors like a corrupt politician, willing to do anything to stay in power.

I fee like most of y'all missing the point because your perspective is confined to the game, "it's just a game". It runs deeper than that and mirrors corruption and unfairness in the real world. It conflicts morality. Is it moral that it screws over people even though its not a rule?

I'm sorry you feel this way about this. We didn't mean for it to turn out like this at all. We just needed to come up a way to keep Ruby alive as long as possible. We didn't know all this would happen because of it.

As traitor that is your job- keep mafia alive at all costs- even self sacrifice

It's not cheating though- they are legitimately doing there job- I just can't believe how many people are going along with it

Like Ally said here, it's our job to try to keep the mafia alive as long as possible. So we decided to ask some people if they'd be fine with voting for Maegan/Trenz & some said yes and some said no. We never forced anyone to vote, we asked some people since the votes were like 8-1 so we had to do something & a shocking number of people actually went along with it, even we were surprised with the results, we thought ruby would die on Day 7 & it would be game over lol.

Icy is going to add a bunch more new rules to the next mafia so you won't have to worry about things like this won't happen again.

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[Shive]

We didn't mean for it to turn out like this at all.

Y'all didn't mean for it to turn out like what? You didn't expect backlash? You didn't think someone would speak up about the slick, shady actions and "plan"? Yeah, I'm not like other people, I don't put up or condone such blatant bs and unfairness.

We just needed to come up a way to keep Ruby alive as long as possible.

You guys couldn't have come up with a plan that didn't involve corrupting the innos into traitors to influence the votes?

we asked some people since the votes were like 8-1 so we had to do something & a shocking number of people actually went along with it

So you influenced people who's role were supposed to INNOCENT into TRAITORS. It was basically a couple pure innos vs. traitors and the mafia.

Anyways, Im looking forward to the next game, but I'm going to try and think outside the box of whatever schemes other people could possibly cook up. Because playing fair is sooooooooo hard.

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[JunoMakuch]

Y'all didn't mean for it to turn out like what? You didn't expect backlash? You didn't think someone would speak up about the slick, shady actions and "plan"? Yeah, I'm not like other people, I don't put up or condone such blatant bs and unfairness.

You guys couldn't have come up with a plan that didn't involve corrupting the innos into traitors to influence the votes?

So you influenced people who's role were supposed to INNOCENT into TRAITORS. It was basically a couple pure innos vs. traitors and the mafia.

It honestly disgusts me how y'all thought this was right.

Anyways, Im looking forward to the next game, but I'm going to try and think outside the box of whatever schemes other people could possibly cook up. Because playing fair is sooooooooo hard.

It’s a game for fun on the forums. I’m sure @Icy_Hatake can specify the rules more clearly in her next game so you won’t need to fuss about unfairness. What’s more disgusting is the way you’re reacting over this…honestly

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[Shive]

It’s a game for fun on the forums. I’m sure @Icy_Hatake can specify the rules more clearly in her next game so you won’t need to fuss about unfairness. What’s more disgusting is the way you’re reacting over this…honestly

I fee like most of y'all missing the point because your perspective is confined to the game, "it's just a game". It runs deeper than that and mirrors corruption and unfairness in the real world. It conflicts morality. Is it moral that it screws over people even though its not a rule?

What’s more disgusting is the way you’re reacting over this…honestly

I understand I am holding a pretty unpopular opinion, but that's okay by me, I will not be pressured to cave in to you guys. I am not angry, just annoyed at this point, I did not curse anyone or anything, I am just confronting people with what I have to say and countering their claims with rebuttals. Not sure what's disgusting when I'm having a debate against literally everyone else.

Anyways, I'll stop here, but I will not forget this.

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[MCFAZfoz]

Okay so now what?

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[Icy_Hatake]

Okay so now what?

Nothing really until I post sign ups again xD

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[BopI]

*tries to heat up popcorn again*

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[Shive]

Y'all I'm sorry for blowing this out of proportion, my opinion still holds, but I just wouldn't let it go, so I'm sorry for that.

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